Sounds like time to review the approach to hiring big boy 🤣

Agreed, the whole firm became increasingly toxic over the years.

Billable hours > culture even if it means they threw more money at us.

Quite a few partners are complete
bullies, notorious for burning through associates.

lmaooooooooooo 🤡🍆💦

After two years, their market worth shoots up. Many will join another law firm at this stage to get bigger pay packet. Or simply to join a more prestigious firm.

Some, like any other 25 year old, whether law or finance will decide that a corporate life is not for them and decide to be personal trainers or DJs or anything that is not office based

Sure fresher. Back to your textbooks, the semester’s about to start.

You’ll hear from my lawyers.

move to Dubizzle brah, you get to keep all your hard earned koins (and drive a phat lambo like i do)

This country does not reward ambition

Lmao have you diabetes yet? Have you any hair left? How’s the divorce going? 🍆😂

I don’t think it’s the case that youngsters are any less driven. They’re just smarter and savvier than the 2000s folks, and are the first generation to have full sight of how damaging a career based solely on unsustainable capitalism is. It’s not just solicitors, it’s all forms of non-advocacy based consultants. And what’s worse is that the SRA has just frustrated youngsters even more with this SQE business. Oops.

Ashurst, total revolving door in certain departments

This is probs TS which is a joke

Absolute rubbish. I just walked into a NQ role with Kirks like it was nothing. U just need stellar academics (Oxbridge first bare minimum, I’ve also got a BCL yeah) and train at a top notch blue chip firm like Slaughters, maybe Links but even that might not b enough

There are opportunities for career progression, but you need to work hard for it and unfortunately the majority of these baby lawyer ain’t fit for purpose.

Any1 know if this place is on SpareRoom? Sounds fun.

Are these literals in the room with us right now?

Same at my shop (big international) in London. Literals appear to be completely expendable these days and if they don’t brown-nose their way into a partner’s good graces, they get dropped. People who trained at my firm and stayed on as associates seem to have more staying power though.

Would also agree with the comment above that mentions juniors getting forced out – I am seeing this a lot more. I have plenty of junior friends who are fed up or disillusioned by how some juniors have been pushed out of law firms and have made them less loyal to them. The percentage of trainees being kept on is also declining so you are getting perfectly good lawyers without jobs at NQ level forced to maybe go in house or scale down/relocate. All of this means that juniors have less loyalty to a company knowing that they could be discarded at any time.

Is this all due to firms overcompensating due to mass hires a few years ago? I hear more and more from associates/partners that the quality of juniors are getting worse and worse. Some of it may be generational/after effects of covid/social skills decline, or maybe a large number of junior lawyers do not care much about being a lawyer anymore?

Can confirm.

2PQE at a Silver Circle firm and ~5 lateral associates got dropped in the last 12 months, often just before they cut their 6 month probation.