Comments on: ‘Significant decline’ in pupil barristers willing to recommend career at the bar https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/ Legal news, insider insight and careers advice Sun, 24 Aug 2025 14:39:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 By: chrissie https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1229816 Sun, 24 Aug 2025 14:39:49 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1229816 In reply to Scouser of Counsel.

I was Called in 1980. I came in the top 1% in Bar Finals and was offered 2 tenancies. But I’m aware that nowadays law students ask for “the model answer” to exam questions. That’s now how practice works and so it isn’t a viable way to train barristers either.

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By: Alex https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1226636 Wed, 06 Aug 2025 00:16:46 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1226636 In reply to Older and (maybe) Wiser.

As that person now perhaps 40 your junior, what is a decent set?

I know that the range of answers to that question are myriad, but what are the sort of top four or five markers that make a good set different to a weak set?

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By: Alexander https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1226631 Tue, 05 Aug 2025 23:39:12 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1226631 In reply to Older and (maybe) Wiser.

As that person now perhaps 40 your junior, what is a decent set?

I know that the range of answers to that question are myriad, but what are the sort of top four or five markers that make a good set different to a weak set?

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By: Older and (maybe) Wiser https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1220124 Wed, 02 Jul 2025 15:59:18 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1220124 Sounds very sensible.
Forty years ago when I was thinking a career at the bar I wish someone had recommended to me that I went elsewhere to practice law because of lack of seats in decent sets of Chambers. Yes a few people will get places in ‘weak’sets but they are looking at a lifetime of resenting their choice.
Much better to earn a very decent living in a solicitors office where there is a definite career structure and you’ll never work for which you won’t get paid.

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By: Anonymous https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1219676 Sun, 29 Jun 2025 21:13:36 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1219676 Need more pupillage places.

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By: And you thought the Millenials were snowflakes? https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1219363 Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:17:17 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1219363 The words “stand”, “heat” and “kitchen” spring to mind.

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By: John E Cash https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1219291 Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:28:13 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1219291 In reply to Al.

As a top-rate taxpayer it sounds great that the work is moving to cheaper alternatives.

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By: Generation Big Girl Pants https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1219290 Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:25:41 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1219290 Generation Drynites having a whinge again?

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By: Al https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1219277 Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:50:44 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1219277 In reply to Scouser of Counsel.

That’s something I’ve really noticed on the NPP courses. The criminal contingent are now doing work far more advanced than we would have done at a similar call. They are all doing regular crown court jury work. The mags stuff is being left for the pupils and very early call.

They are all very capable of doing this of course; standards are just so high now. But it is concerning that they are being offered RASSO work at this stage of their careers. But there are so few experienced counsel willing to take that on now.

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By: Odeer https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1219264 Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:47:11 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1219264 “We want an ultra-competitive career but we don’t really want to work that hard at it.”

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By: Scouser of Counsel https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/06/significant-decline-in-pupils-willing-to-recommend-career-at-the-bar/#comment-1219260 Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:50:30 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=221712#comment-1219260 This is because the ratios of work to numbers of counsel have changed.

When I was a pupil and a junior tenant there was not enough work to go around in some areas of law.

We would be left with “clear” days in the diary.

Now there is so much work and not enough counsel to do it that pupils are doing lots of work and work that is beyond their year of call.

The upshot of this is that their earnings should be a lot higher, in real terms, than they were in decades past.

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