Comments on: Shoosmiths addresses salary bunching while lifting London NQ salaries to £105k https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/ Legal news, insider insight and careers advice Tue, 19 Aug 2025 09:02:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 By: Haul Pastings https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1228944 Tue, 19 Aug 2025 09:02:41 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1228944 In reply to Regional observer.

lmao calm down little man

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By: Market correction https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1228045 Thu, 14 Aug 2025 09:09:37 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1228045 In reply to Maybe stop shooting yourselves in the foot.

A market correction is overdue as the NQ rate at larger firms has been too high for far too long. It seems these days, firms are unable to distinguish themselves to attract talent other than by announcing a new NQ salary rise.

But if firms instead choose to pay NQs according to their actual fee earning value, which is how they decide pay for Al other lawyers?! – the NQ headline rate at most firms will be cut in half overnight. 50% or more of the NQ salary is usually

This would make for far less pay compression further up the pay ladder which can only be a good thing. People would actually be paid according to their worth and experience.

I suppose the other fair way to do it is to up everyone else’s salary by an extra 50% to reflect the same premium that NQs get. Firms – would you be willing to do that? Pay people an extra 50% more than what you should be paying for that role? You do it for NQs.. not great for staff morale is it?

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By: Maybe stop shooting yourselves in the foot https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1228042 Thu, 14 Aug 2025 08:52:44 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1228042 Pay bunching is largely due to firms throwing free money (massive premiums) on NQ salaries which pushes up the entry level pay into what should be associate and senior lawyer earning bands.

Meanwhile junior lawyers receive single digit salary increases which leaves many being paid only pennies more than NQs. In the worst cases, they are paid less than the NQs that they supervise. Yes it still happens.

Message to firm remco and HR. You are causing the problem, stop it. Start paying NQs on the same basis that you pay everyone else – on experience and fee earning. This will give a much bigger salary range and fairer progression, with much fairer and meaningful increases available to junior and senior lawyers annually. The bunching issue will then go away.

Stop blaming this on the way the market operates. If it’s a problem in your firm, it’s something for you to address. Own it. Deal with it.

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By: Regional observer https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1226307 Sun, 03 Aug 2025 10:22:41 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1226307 In reply to OC NQ.

Do something about it then rather than whining on Legal Cheek

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By: Conrad https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1226053 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 16:33:36 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1226053 In reply to OC 6PQE.

Go find a job elsewhere then, hard man.

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By: OC NQ https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1226052 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 16:32:25 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1226052 In reply to This has been the case for a while.

I’m hungry, wearing a tattered robe made of rough-hewn sack cloth and my shoes have holes in them.

Can I get a raise please?

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By: Burnt https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1226047 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 16:08:12 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1226047 11PQE at Shoos London and on £106k + £3k bonus – thought it was decent with no office attendance requirement?

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By: OC 6PQE https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1226042 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 15:38:43 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1226042 Are you seeing this OC Management ? Becoming a laughing stock on the block. Say goodbye to your top talent. Utter disgrace.

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By: Mid https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1226013 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 12:00:58 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1226013 In reply to Brian, age 10.

Glow up…yeah, Shoosmiths is literally the Alison Hammond of the legal world.

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By: White car https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225995 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 10:03:22 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225995 In reply to Perspective.

Thank you for posting your amended comment and clarifying as such.

Without this, my house would have burned down.

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By: cpt. cock https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225982 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 08:52:18 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225982 ]]> In reply to A man with a fork in a world of soup.

lol he’s not ripping anyone but his own firm you goober, learn to read 👽

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By: This has been the case for a while https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225979 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 08:21:47 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225979 In reply to Make it make sense.

Unless I’m mistaken, they have been paying more than OC for over a year?

OC raised to 94k last year whereas Shoosmiths increased to 97k last year.

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By: A man with a fork in a world of soup https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225978 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 08:18:45 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225978 In reply to dumfuk.

Wtf you’re doing is ripping on Shoosmiths despite them paying their lawyers more than your firm lol

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By: Brian, age 10 https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225971 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 07:51:45 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225971 Shoosmtihs has a mad glow up in recent years.

They used to be on par with Irwin Mitchell, DAC Beachcroft and Browne Jacobson.

Now they’ve overtaken Pinsents, Gowlings and Mischin with NQ salary and PEP.

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By: Misc https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225966 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 07:04:35 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225966 Mental. Let’s see what Shoosmiths offer those in the middle…. I’m 12 years PQE. I bet it isn’t this size of pay rise

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By: Perspective https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225926 Thu, 31 Jul 2025 23:51:25 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225926 I was offered a job at Shoosmiths (London) in 2021. The NQ salary then was was c. £78k. It moved to £85k shortly after I joined and when I left it was £97k. The fact that it is now £105k, with only an expectation of 1,350 hours is insane. My current firm pays the same for an NQ but our target is 1650 hours.

*Amended to correct the year the job was offered (it was 2021, not 2022).

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By: Perspective https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225925 Thu, 31 Jul 2025 23:45:46 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225925 I was offered a job at Shoosmiths (London) in 2022. The NQ salary then was was c. £78k. It moved to £85k shortly after I joined and when I left it was £97k. The fact that it is now £105k, with only an expectation of 1,350 hours is insane. My current firm pays the same for an NQ but our target is 1650 hours.

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By: dumfuk https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225910 Thu, 31 Jul 2025 22:00:05 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225910 Lmao Shoosmiths now whacks £105k at NQs whose balls barely dropped, and then there’s me at Pinsents, 7PQE and getting sweated on a regular basis and they pay me £140k for the pleasure.

wtf am I doing with my life

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By: X https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225877 Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:02:19 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225877 I’ll be honest I’ll never thought I see the day shoosmiths would pay their NQs £100k

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By: Anonymous https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225842 Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:20:47 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225842 In reply to Anonymous.

£100K

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By: 6pqe https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/07/shoosmiths-addresses-salary-bunching-whilst-it-lifts-london-nq-salaries-to-105k/#comment-1225838 Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:16:29 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=223036#comment-1225838 In reply to Anonymous.

115K

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